bill press, nationally syndicated talk show host and chris star walt from the washington examiner. let's start with michael jackson's death. huge pop star, seriously weird guy. the covers went on for two solid weeks. >> i remember you complaining about that. >> i'm still complaining about it. >> oi kachlt it went on for two years. yes, it was overkill. this was an icon of pop culture. i think that the country in a way needed the mourn. yes, it went on and on and went on too long. we're talking ratings here. the ratings went through the roof for this network. >> people were genuinely interested. michael jackson was the most googled term of last year. he was fascinating to generations of people. it's not a surprise he would get the coverage he got. >> my problem was the volume of the coverage. >> if there had been something major happening in the world -- >> there couldn't have been anything major happening. it was all blacked out. >> bill press, looking back in media terms, michael jackson's death was bigger than ted kennedy's passing and certainly walter cronkite's. >> i think the